isn't obamacare much more important than that? >> that was an oversimplification actually. >> but you have a party, the republican party that, with everybody agreeing about obamacare, they want to get rid of it, they still managed to spill an enormous amount of each other's blood fighting over this. i think they have learned some lesson about that. certainly the leaders will say it will happen again. but i want to go back to something that alex said something before about the freshness of republican ideas. i don't think the public hears that. if you listen to the presidential debates of 2012 and 2008, other than barack obama, the name that was mentioned the most was ronald reagan. they couldn't stop talking about ronald reagan. a lot of their ideas were 1980 era reagan ideas. their idea was to cut taxes. if your car breaks down, cut taxes. if you're houses on fire, cut taxes. if your lawn needs mowing, cut taxes. that was the only idea that they presented to voters. americans thought that they had very old ideas. >> they only felt